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 Floss usage not listed for blended colors?
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tinkluvs2

USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 :  12:51:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have an issue that I see has already been brought up, but not responded to:
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I printed a floss usage chart for a pattern last night and discovered it was incomplete. This pattern has separate symbols/listings for several colors because they are used alone and in various blended combinations. However, 4 colors (used in blends) are not listed at all. I verified using highlight that they are all used and all used in the same basic area of the pattern (dragon wing). Other colors in that wing, including the backstitch, are listed.

Why is the floss usage chart wrong in this case? What can I do to get it to show and print complete?


Diane
There is no such thing as a stupid question "

I am having the same problem. Is there any chance that the program could be updated so that blended colors could have the option of changing the floss options to reflect how many strands of each floss in the combination? Also, even if that cannot be accomplished, the floss usage of a blended color is not showing all the colors that are in my pattern; is there a way to correct that?
I would really like to have a complete and accurate usage chart which may require a formula to adjust for blends. Thanks for any help and reply.


'Twas The Night Before Christmas and all through the house not a creature was stirring ... just me and my mouse. ~~~@ Tink

Edited by - tinkluvs2 on 12/10/2008 12:52:41

Dragonlair

USA
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Posted - 12/10/2008 :  15:39:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After upgrading to 9 (update .009), I decided to try my problem again. It still seemed to be there so I did some checking. I finally realized that all the colors are there, they are just not listed as such. If there are colors that are used ONLY in blends, the chart lists the first color of the blend with no notice that it is a blend. If the same color is used alone and with a blend (and is the first of the two colors), it will be listed twice.

For example - a blend of DMC 504 and DMC 3747 shows as DMC 504 and there is NO listing of DMC 3747 (as if the color is not used). It should show in the chart of DMC 504 + DMC 3747.

I respectfully request that the floss usage chart be updated to clearly show ALL colors of a blend. It can be done as I listed above or EVERY color be given it's own listing. For those that are only used as blends, the calculation would be done as if it was a single strand stitch.

Diane
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gteft

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 11/21/2009 :  22:21:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I am currently evaluating the pro version as we have some old graphs that are falling apart, and want to capture them somehow. I would like to be able to use two and three floss stitches, and was disappointed by the way this is handled in the application.
As the color is listed with blended in parenthesis, and the usage list doesn't include the blend, it is hard to know how much is really being estimated.
I would to be able to create 'shopping' lists and include all colors used from the inventory. As I like to use not only two colors, but also include metallic or shiny thread, it would be desirable to be able to handle not just one color with a blend, but multi-color stitches tied to a symbol.
There are a number of really good features with this program, and for the most part it is real easy to use, but I'm surprised the floss usage and listing capabilities aren't more sophisticated.
I am a programmer, and if there is any way I could help with the development of a patch or utility application for this, let me know.


- Greg
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Dragonlair

USA
2863 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2009 :  08:02:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Greg,

The floss usage area is among the trickiest areas of this software because, by definition, most numbers are estimates. The estimate by amount is just that - an estimate. It does not take into consideration (at least not well) leading and trailing ends of threads, use of railroading or loop method or any other consideration. It doesn't consider carry-overs or confetti or how long the rows of each color is. It is simply based on the stitches themselves.

As each symbol is listed, you can use that as an estimate for BOTH colors in a blend. I'm not sure you can have a 3-way blend. I've never tried that one!

I've got a strong background in programming myself and I understand that this area just cannot be completely accurate.

I did a test a few years ago with a larger, mostly monochrome, pattern (a small amount of 2 other colors were used). The estimate of floss usage was far lower than the actual amount - by about 50%.

Just use the number of stitches and your own guesses for the amount of floss to use for ALL colors. The stitch count is the ONLY part that can be accurate. Even the length of backstitching is an estimate!

Diane
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jaer0406

USA
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Posted - 04/08/2018 :  14:15:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hate to resurrect such an old thread but this just really messed me up with a newly designed pattern.

Blended entries show up as 100% one color and NONE of the second color - this is a huge oversight. The other color isn't even listed!
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Dragonlair

USA
2863 Posts

Posted - 04/08/2018 :  15:13:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The floss usage chart only shows the primary color but the print legend shows the primary color with an asterisk and the asterisk shows it as blended as well as the secondary color.

The floss usage chart isn't that accurate to begin with and is difficult to export. The export as a csv loses the symbol.

What form of list are you needing for the flosses.

In any case, I recommend reporting this - use the contact point - as a bug. I agree, it should list all colors specified in all lists.

Diane
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